Discussion

• 3rdOption :

  I just hope this gets to today's primary voters quickly enough to sway a few away from Hillary. I'm sure Olberman will run with it, but by then the polls will be closed, or close to it.

  Non-Sequitur Alert:

  Here's an absolutely ludicrous blog from Huffpost about the inevitability of Free Trade/globalization:

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benjamin-r-barber/protectionism-profits-a_b_89813.html#

  I particularly like the part where he says that there is absolutely nothing that can be done to recover manufacturing jobs.

  One commenter ("bmora"), actually said this:

  "we cannot get rid of the Industrial era jobs quick enough."

  Amazing. The insular arrogance, the fundamental social cluelessness, of the over-educated and under-common sensed.

  Just amazing.

  Posted on March 4, 2008 1:30 PM

• waltc :

  3rdOption

  Very few people care about the effects of Free trade except those who have been affected by it like a blue collar stiff like myself.

  This is why Edwards and Kucinich never got traction with the issue and why we're stuck between choosing two centrist bullshitters.

  And most people won't care until our economy implodes and it will since "free" trade transformed our nation from a producer to a nation of sponges and moochers. We traded off our most productive and critical industries for debt and trade imbalances. Once the world figures out we've got nothing left to trade, where the hell are we? This isn't 1945, where we had an enormous, intact manufacturing base, a large, devoted workforce, and 90% remaining on the world's largest petroleum reserve. Today we have none of that.

  Yeah it means "good night Gracie" for our economy and standard of living.

  Posted on March 4, 2008 7:04 PM

• GrantBurkeVT :

  Edwards started out on shaky ground. Kucinich should have left the Democratic Party a long time ago. That said, here's our final chance to get a candidate who takes "free" trade seriously.

  VOTENADER.ORG

  Posted on March 4, 2008 9:41 PM

• dana :

  Meanwhile Obama's going around blowing sexist dog whistles. You know, black people got equal rights in this country before women did. The Thirteenth and Fifteenth Amendments were a done deal well over a hundred years ago. The Equal Rights Amendment still hasn't been ratified. People at least pretend to be offended by obvious racist slurs these days, but slander against an entire gender is still acceptable.

  Both sides are being scumbags, but one scumbag or the other will be nominated. I would rather vote for the scumbag who at least doesn't encourage hatred against me.

  I know you men out there think sexism ain't no big deal 'cause we at least aren't being lynched (and hey, you deny rape's any big deal and you question how it was provoked when a man kills an ex-wife or an ex-girlfriend in cold blood), but you don't have to live with it, either.

  Look at the Shakespeare's Sister blog (you know how to use Google, right?) if you want to see examples of what I am talking about from the Obama camp. And take them seriously because this is not an "accident" and the man is no idiot. I am not saying racism isn't still a serious issue but I see entirely too many black men willing to throw black women under the bus just to get more rights for themselves, and they throw the rest of America's women under the bus with them in the process. And if you take the two demographic groups separately there are more women in this country than African-Americans. It would follow that hatred of women is a more serious problem with farther-reaching consequences.

  Posted on March 5, 2008 8:38 AM

• spankinrankin :

  dana,

  It doesn't matter which of them gets the nomination. Neither one of those scumbags is any different from Mccain on the economy or foreign policy. Mccain will win all 50 states and possibly come close in DC come November because the media "loves" him too much, Nader will further hold the Democrats feet to the fire, and the Democrats will further ruin themselves by trying to run to the "right" thereby framing themselves as political opportunists.

  P.S.: If Huckabee gets even the VP nod from Mccain, look for the GOP to do their phoney "populism" again.

  Posted on March 5, 2008 12:25 PM