Discussion

• 3rdOption :

  Funny how, as Hillary is on the cusp of a potentially embarrassing loss in Iowa, suddenly we're hearing from all corners just how bogus, inaccurate, and out of touch Iowans and their caucus' are.

  Just skim the major news outlets, and a bunch of the blogs, and you'll see story after editorial after opinion piece telling us to disregard tonight's result.

  The worst case scenario here will be solid wins by Huckabee and Edwards.

  Populism trumping corporatism.

  The status quo enforcers cannot tolerate a situation where candidates win on the platform of halting the corporate sponsored corruption of our democracy.

  If either of these guys have a good showing, expect the long knives of the MSM to come out and eviscerate them through ridicule and minimalization, plus a healthy dose of scandal-mongering.

  And if you want to see what a collective tantrum/seizure looks like, watch what happens if Ron Paul does well.

  Posted on January 3, 2008 11:57 AM

• below_mason_dixon :

  I know all that because I am currently a "white" student on a very diverse campus.

  Oh, and I FULLY support the biparisan efforts of the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative in their efforts to ban affirmative action. They are the true civil rights pioneers of our day. I hope we get something like that in Maryland.

  I HATE the rightwing, bourgeois ACLU and all the FAKElefties there who wanna sacrifice the kids of others so that their pseudo social consciences might be less burdened.

  Not that you are going to, but please don't call me a racist, nazi, or white nationaist. I dislike all those groups the way I dislike Al Sharpton. Don't act as if just because a "white" person is against AA cause it hurts them then they are racist and trying to keep out blacks. Not true at all. I am a racial egalitarian. I don't believe in race. I am a leftist who sees the main war as a CLASS war.

  
  

  Posted on January 7, 2008 12:09 PM

• below_mason_dixon :

  Clarification:

  When I say I don't believe in race that is not 100 % valid. I mean two things specifically.

  (1)I do not believe in the conventional notions of race: "whites," "blacks," "hispanics," etc. I DO believe in the existence of national ethnicities. I want to make that clear.

  (2) I do not believe that the main dividing line in humanity is race. I believe it is CLASS. So effectively, i do not see race as important when push comes to shove. So I do not "believe" in race to the extent that I do not BELIEVE in it as something that should divide humanity. But i am not pro-mass-immigration. I DO believe in national citizenship and there being nations. I just think citizenship is about IDEAS, not race.

  So basically I when I say I don't believe in race I mean "I don't believe in race in its conventional wisdom" and "I don't believe in race as a divider of humanity." I do think there are various national ethnicities in existence. I am at odds with the way society sees race as a classifier of humanity.

  Yeah, complexities in thought. DEAL with it. Nah, its easier to just call me a hypocrite.

  As far as class, that is obviously not a biological divider. I do not mean to say that class is more relevant biologically than national ethnicity. In a biological sense I believe in ethnicity more than class. BUT, I still don't see how "race" is a biolocal divider. Animals vary and humans vary, biologically. One may call those variations ethnicities. Which are clearly more important than class in a biological sense. But to call these ethnic variations different "races" is something I disagree with. And although biologically more significant, the minor ethnic differences are not enought to overwhelm the socialogical differences.

  In a SOCIOLOGICAL sense, I see class as much more important than race. So in that sense I believe in class, not race. And as far as not believing in race biologically, reread that first paragraph.

  Summary:

  SOCIOLOGY > BIOLOGY for humans

  And IN the biological sense, there is one HUMAN race with somewhat varying ETHNICITIES. That's my belief, and it is obviously not enough to warrant a belief in full racial differences that SPLIT UP humanity. I believe in ethnicities and I believe they are secondary.

  Okay, now respond with that stuff from the villified nobel guy who talks about racial differences. How consequential!!!!!

  Posted on January 7, 2008 12:10 PM