Discussion

• wafranklin :

  Dave: The Immigration Con Artists, your article at Creators:

  The ultimate underlying stress point for most of our society is WAGES. Almost everything I see in the news can be taken back to the massive campaigns to control wages through illegal and legal means, manipulation of legislation, purchase of politicians, offshoring, etc. all go back to the problem for the corporations of minimizing wages. They have proven that they would rid themselves of all human workers if at all possible. All the productivity gains of the past 30 years went into their pockets -- not those who produced those gains. The entire political process, at least the overt one, is at root based on control of labor. As for immigrants, we have a demand problem, not a supply problem.

  I talk with too many who cannot, or will not, see the connections of the events of today with the labor wage issue. Immigration is just one segement in the maintenance of the "reserve army of the unemployed", as is/was slavery, peonage, serfdom, illegal immigrants, wage slavery, offshoring--things we know exist but do not connect with labor wages and their suppression. This multibillion annual campaign is interlocked at the highest levels: Chamber of Commerce, NAM, think tanks, consolidated media cartels, congress, the white house, corporations themselves, ad nauseum. And they all have the same talking points.

  Posted on November 17, 2007 4:32 PM

• waltc :

  The immigration con artists is a decent article.

  But I think you miss the main thrust of why this is going on. Business wants to eradicate the working and middle-class in this country. They see them as a obstacle to generating even more wealth and control over society.

  This is why there is multi-pronged attack on the American worker. The Democrats and GOP are both using illegal immigration to destroy wages and benefits in the service and manufacturing sectors. Not to mention wiping out social services. H1-B and L-1 guest workers attack higher end manufacturing and technology jobs. Off-shoring and "free" trade wrecks and guts entire communities and insures they never recover.

  Its war by other means.

  Oh it gets better, look at the silence from both parties on the North American Union or SPP. This will be the final stake in the heart of this country when implemented. It will be the elimination of national sovereignty and citizenship.

  Its clear that both parties are killing our country in the name of money. Supporting either is at best aiding and abetting the enemy.

  We need a revolution or rebellion.
  

  Posted on November 17, 2007 11:03 PM

• robert beal :

  Idaho -- progressive legislators? I'm glad to see the Democrats haven't loss ground in Idaho. When I left 6 years ago, there was something like 98 Republicans and 2 Democrats in the state legislature.

  Back then, Republican Governor Phil Batt, a hops and onion farmer from the west side of the Treasure Valley, over by the Snake River boundary with Oregon, practically begged the Democrats to get their act together. I think he forsaw what could happen -- and has happened at the national level -- under a hegemonic ideology.

  Phil also ushered in and signed a minimum wage law for migrant farmworkers. Thus growers on the Oregon side of the border tend to be hurting more for adequate labor supplies -- funny how that works.

  Posted on November 18, 2007 9:02 PM

• GrantBurkeVT :

  You can thank the Democratic Party of Idaho for putting Bruce Reed who became a leader in the corrupt DLC. As for Idaho, I remember back in 2002 when Clinton Hack Alan Blinken further DAMAGED the party in his utterly pathetic run against Larry Craig. I hear that there used to be constant fighting between environmentalists and farmers in that state as well.

  Posted on November 19, 2007 7:47 AM